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Post by Fredo on Feb 17, 2016 9:59:46 GMT -5
The 2016 Presidential race is nothing if not interesting so I'll start out with a video just for those of you who don't think Trump has a good grasp of the situation.
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Post by mrtxstar on Feb 17, 2016 11:40:11 GMT -5
That video isn't working so... so much for that starter. The Dems have only two options to offer the voters. One is a socialist and the other is a pathological liar. Any other normal election cycle the GOP would have no problem getting their nominee in the White House. This election cycle is not normal, to say the least. Too many candidates dividing up the delegates, battle to fill the SCOTUS vacancy threatens to further divide the country, accusation, lies and outright childish behavior is rampant in this GOP race to nominate for POTUS. The uninformed voters are likely to become non-voters. Anger and frustration within the GOP is out of control. We need a leader that can unite the party and unite the country. Party unification will not happen if Trump is the nominee. And Trump will run as a third party choice if he is not nominated thereby sinking any chance that a non-Trump GOP nominee would have. So we are left with the socialist or the liar. I bet Joe Biden is wishing he was running now. He could win.
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Post by Fredo on Feb 17, 2016 13:38:23 GMT -5
1. I can't find the original interview anywhere. It was in three different places this morning and now it's just missing. As for Trump on the 2A, here's a little something on that.
2. I just don't see it the way you do. Why do we need party unity? What has the republican party given us but a bunch of wishy washy nobody's? Who's going to beat the monstrous Clinton machine? Rubio? another Bush? A religious nut like Cruz? No.
The only one who can beat clinton is someone who actually says what the American people are thinking.That will turnout the vote.
3. Welcome back.
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Post by mrtxstar on Feb 17, 2016 14:17:15 GMT -5
1. Trump has changed his tune on many things. He has certainly changed his stance on 2A. He supported Bill Clinton's attack on assault weapons. This fact is politically inconvenient if he is seriously intent on getting the nomination so he changed his tune. He's a chameleon...
2.Party unity is essential. He won't have the votes to win a general election without party unity. Many registered Republicans will simply choose to not vote at all if Trump is the GOP nominee. Just speaking for "religious nuts" like myself, I won't vote for him in a general election. I doubt he garners enough delegates to even avoid a brokered convention. 3. Thank you for welcoming me back. Good to be back. I'll try to get a few more to join me but they'll probably also be religious nuts that support Cruz. Is that okay?
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Post by Fredo on Feb 17, 2016 15:09:55 GMT -5
Nuts of all kinds are welcome here.
When it comes down to it, republicans will vote for trump over clinton plus, he'll pull some of the famed "Reagan democrats".
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Post by mrtxstar on Feb 17, 2016 15:54:12 GMT -5
Trump has to secure the nomination first. Getting past that hurdle, you're right... "when it comes down to it, republicans will vote for Trump over Clinton", but not in numbers that will win the election.
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Post by mrtxstar on Feb 17, 2016 16:33:18 GMT -5
From earlier today...
The definition of "bonkers" must have changed because Mr. Cruz looked quite calm and methodical in his delivery to me. Judge for yourself.
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Post by Fredo on Mar 2, 2016 17:06:41 GMT -5
One thing is certainly true. If the RNC goes ahead with it's various plans to derail the Trump campaign, it will be the end of the party. Huckabee said today that they should be glad this revolution is using ballots instead of bullets and he's correct, but there may not be another chance to do it this way. The people... are pretty steamed.
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Post by mrtxstar on Mar 2, 2016 21:06:46 GMT -5
One thing is certainly true. If the RNC goes ahead with it's various plans to derail the Trump campaign, it will be the end of the party. Huckabee said today that they should be glad this revolution is using ballots instead of bullets and he's correct, but there may not be another chance to do it this way. The people... are pretty steamed. Super Tuesday slowed Trumps pace below what it will take to win the nomination threshold of 1237 delegates. That's only a simple majority. Cruz is only 90 delegates behind and there is still a long way to go before the Convention in Cleveland. The GOP rebellion of Trump support runs deep enough to support Cruz over him as Lindsey Graham painfully stated. Rubio and Kasich will be encouraged by the party bosses to withdraw and it will be a one on race before long. California is the biggest winner take all state in the race and guess who has the early advantage... Ted Cruz . Cruz may not get the 1237 delegates but the brokered convention will have Cruz as the victor on the first ballot. Trump supporters will get behind Cruz because he is not part of the GOP establishment and he will defeat any dem nominee in a landslide.
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Post by Fredo on Mar 3, 2016 10:11:03 GMT -5
Absolute nonsense. Cruz has already shot his wad. Most of jesusland has voted and he'll get slaughtered in CA, NY and the NE in general. People don't want a Cruz theocracy funded by the big banks.
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Post by mrtxstar on Mar 3, 2016 11:28:18 GMT -5
Absolute nonsense. Cruz has already shot his wad. Most of jesusland has voted and he'll get slaughtered in CA, NY and the NE in general. People don't want a Cruz theocracy funded by the big banks. God has a plans for this nation. Either way, Gods will will be done. I believe that plan includes Ted Cruz as POTUS. I know you don't see this which explains your stance. I'm a Jesus nut. I believe. If you think your candidate never got a hand up by the big banks then think again.
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Post by Fredo on Mar 3, 2016 17:20:15 GMT -5
God has a plan. Well, I feel better already. That dude would never fuck people up for no ascertainable reason. Keep on having faith and maybe the locusts won't get you.
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Post by mrtxstar on Mar 3, 2016 19:47:00 GMT -5
God has a plan. Well, I feel better already. That dude would never fuck people up for no ascertainable reason. Keep on having faith and maybe the locusts won't get you. When your political acuity matches your blasphemy, I'll worry. I will keep my faith no matter the turn out of this election. Like I've already said, God's will will be done. What do I have to worry about ? Drumpf will make America great again, right?
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Post by mrtxstar on Mar 5, 2016 12:29:09 GMT -5
I hope you Trump supporters have a sense of humor.
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Post by Fredo on Mar 5, 2016 16:35:21 GMT -5
Cruz is winning Kansas pretty handily right now.
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Post by Fredo on Mar 14, 2016 9:29:10 GMT -5
The mental gymnastics being employed by the media in order to blame Trump for the actions of the dimocratic rent a mob are pretty impressive.
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Post by mrtxstar on Mar 14, 2016 20:22:49 GMT -5
The mental gymnastics being employed by the media in order to blame Trump for the actions of the dimocratic rent a mob are pretty impressive. Stifling free speech they disagree with is what democrats do. But let's set the record straight... Trump has been promising to pay the legal fees of anyone that punches a protester, on more than one occasion he has expressed his wishes to be able to punch a protester if only he wasn't a candidate. Who couldn't guess someone would finally conclude they could punch a protester and it be okay. Only now that violence is happening, Trump is suddenly being more responsible with his speech by encouraging peace and non-violence by his supporters. But somehow Trump is exempt from any blame of violence that only happens at his rallies?.. now that is some mental gymnastics. I'd say both sides are being provocative and share the blame. The democrat hooligans at a Trump rally were clearly there to start something and not just to protest, they don't get a pass from me. But Trump shares some of the blame because of some of his incendiary words encouraging violence.
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Post by Fredo on Mar 16, 2016 11:27:36 GMT -5
At some point, he's going to haveto build a counter force to the move on, blm goons. Left unchecked, they'll go so far as to block the convention or even the polls in November.
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Post by mrtxstar on Mar 16, 2016 20:13:28 GMT -5
At some point, he's going to haveto build a counter force to the move on, blm goons. Left unchecked, they'll go so far as to block the convention or even the polls in November. I've heard rumblings that BLM and CAIR are joining forces to cause havoc this summer. I have no doubt there are security plans being made to keep their ilk away from the convention but I'm still of the opinion Cleveland will burn. My cure for preventing the polls from being blocked in November is to guard them the way we guard the entrance to any sports event or airport... armed security works. Now there needs to be a plan to deal with the riot that starts within the convention when the Trump people's candidate is denied the nomination.
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Post by Fredo on Mar 17, 2016 8:16:14 GMT -5
I hope they're not that foolish. If they use some sort of rule change or delegate tinkering to cheat him in favor of ANY other candidate it'll get ugly quickly.If he loses, he loses but I think people are finally wising up to the fact that we're constantly being cheated and aren't going to take this one sitting down. If he chooses to do so he can kick off a revolution with a single speech... and it won't have to be a long one. Those move on goofballs won't stand a chance when the 3% show up and it will get out of control. Whatever you think of trump, cheating the man will be much much worse.
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Post by mrtxstar on Mar 17, 2016 11:18:35 GMT -5
I hope they're not that foolish. If they use some sort of rule change or delegate tinkering to cheat him in favor of ANY other candidate it'll get ugly quickly.If he loses, he loses but I think people are finally wising up to the fact that we're constantly being cheated and aren't going to take this one sitting down. If he chooses to do so he can kick off a revolution with a single speech... and it won't have to be a long one. Those move on goofballs won't stand a chance when the 3% show up and it will get out of control. Whatever you think of trump, cheating the man will be much much worse. You know I don't think Trump is the best candidate but my guy is hated by the GOP establishment also. I don't think the skullduggery that you are suspicious of is just about Trump. It's about both the candidates with viable paths to the nomination being non-establishment candidates. The RNC wouldn't screw Trump only to give the nomination to Cruz, they are going to screw Trump and Cruz to give the nomination to the candidate of their choosing. That is the spark that triggers revolt... that's war, my friend and it will be nationwide. We have a few more months of amassing delegates so let the processes play out. Up to this point the two guys with Cuban heritage have collectively garnered the most votes. With Rubio out, there is only one Cuban left for those people to vote for and now he alone will continue the trend. Trump is full of bluster and made the mistake of saying he wants Cruz one on one. Sure, Kasich is still in the race but anyone voting for that lump wasn't going to vote for Cruz anyway so I think he only hurts Trump. It effectively is Trump vs Cruz now. Going forward, if I'm right, we are going to see the vote swing in Cruz's favor. I hope the Trump people can be civil when their candidate loses at the ballot box. If I'm wrong and the vote does not swing in Cruz's favor, I will except Trump's candidacy as the will of the people. Which ever of those two scenarios plays out, it will be up to the RNC at the convention to either do the right thing and let the votes matter or spark revolution.
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Post by Fredo on Mar 17, 2016 11:49:31 GMT -5
Agreed, but opposite. I don't think cruz is the better candidate and I also think Clinton would eat him alive. Without the crossover vote, the dims win easily. That means 2-4 SC justices and a generation of bad legal decisions. It means single payer health care. It means universal race/gender/sexuality based hiring quotas. It means serious restrictions on gun rights. Above all, it means all of that happens under the umbrella of economic collapse and IMF rule in the US. Trump is certainly flawed, but he has the better chance of beating Clinton.
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Post by mrtxstar on Mar 17, 2016 14:03:55 GMT -5
Agreed, but opposite. I don't think cruz is the better candidate and I also think Clinton would eat him alive. Without the crossover vote, the dims win easily. That means 2-4 SC justices and a generation of bad legal decisions. It means single payer health care. It means universal race/gender/sexuality based hiring quotas. It means serious restrictions on gun rights. Above all, it means all of that happens under the umbrella of economic collapse and IMF rule in the US. Trump is certainly flawed, but he has the better chance of beating Clinton. I'm aware of the consequences of losing this election to the dims. It's clearly got you spooked. Conservative principles and reducing the size government is the only way this county survives. Two terms of Obama has awaken a citizenry that has had enough. The corruption of political influence peddling has got to stop. You don't stop the buying and selling of political influence by switching from those that sell the political influence to a guy that has been doing the buying of political influence. You will just continue to get more of the same. Conservative principles will only save this country if the person in the office of POTUS is a true conservative. That's not Trump. The citizenry will not choose a third term of Obama(which is effectively what Hillary is) over Cruz. The GOP keeps giving us none conservative candidate to run for POTUS and that is why we keep losing. Now you think yet another non conservative candidate is the answer? No thank you. Ted Cruz is a true conservative and the only one in the race that embraces the ideology of true conservatism. If the American people reject that after 8 years of Obama's tyranny then this country deserves Hillary and the consequences that comes with that choice. If we are to go down, I'm going down with the candidate that believes as I do with true conservative principles. Trump is a compromised choice that is a result of fear of the consequences of Hillary.
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Post by Fredo on Mar 18, 2016 7:48:52 GMT -5
There's the problem. The extreme right has successfully cast the face of "true conservatism" as superstitious nuts. People are sick of left wing tyranny, but we're also sick of religious nuts trying to cram jebus down our throats at every turn. 90% of people couldn't care less if gays want to get married and would prefer that churches pay taxes on their billions of income. Ted cruz is the face of conservatism that gets beaten time and time again. We need someone who can balance a budget and drive the dialogue and ted just ain't it.
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Post by Fredo on Mar 18, 2016 10:18:49 GMT -5
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