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Post by mrtxstar on Mar 18, 2016 10:33:09 GMT -5
Your aversion to religious nuts has clouded your logic. True conservatism won us the House in 2010 and the Senate in 2012 and Ted Cruz has never lost an election. I don't know where you are getting this idea that "conservatism gets beat time and time again". The last two elections for POTUS were lost by establishment RINOs not true conservatives. If you want a self proclaimed "budget balancer" vote for Kasich. The only dialog Trump is driving is he's the most polarizing candidate in recent history. Head to head, Cruz consistently beats Hillary in the polls. Trump has lost to her in 12 of the last 14 head to head polls. You need to snap out of your blinded bigotry toward Christians and see there is much more to Ted Cruz than his religion.
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Post by mrtxstar on Mar 18, 2016 10:42:52 GMT -5
Trump had better do what Cruz has already done... win his own state. It's to be expected. This is meaningless to a national election. It only demonstrates the polarization of the election at this time... driven by Trumps divisive nature.
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Post by Fredo on Mar 18, 2016 11:20:36 GMT -5
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Post by mrtxstar on Mar 18, 2016 12:38:01 GMT -5
That's your rebuttal? You might as well just say "my candidate can beat up your candidate". Cruz "losing the whole damn country" isn't backed up by any imperial evidence so stop with the empty talk. Ted Cruz has been consistently beating Hillary in head to head polls since late December of last year. Trump is still losing in polls to that witch. So the opposite is true from what you are saying. If Trump is the nominee, we lose. With Cruz we win in a landslide. Trump says he wants Cruz one on one but when he gets it he won't debate Ted. Trump is scared and he should be.
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Post by Fredo on Mar 18, 2016 12:50:35 GMT -5
I guess we'll see. It should be all over by the end of April. I don't think cruz is a particularly bad guy but we need a barbarian to turn the tide and I just don't see him having the stuff.
Trump for President Gingrich for VP Carson heads the VA Kasich for HHS director Cruz for SCOTUS Paul for Sec of interior
That's a ticket that could turn the tide.
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Post by mrtxstar on Mar 18, 2016 18:27:25 GMT -5
I guess we'll see. It should be all over by the end of April. I don't think cruz is a particularly bad guy but we need a barbarian to turn the tide and I just don't see him having the stuff. Trump for President Gingrich for VP Carson heads the VA Kasich for HHS director Cruz for SCOTUS Paul for Sec of interior That's a ticket that could turn the tide. Trump's going to need California to get the 1237 delegates and that's not until June. Ted Cruz for President Carly Fiorina for VP Allen West heads the VA Dr. Rand Paul for HHS director Mike Lee for SCOTUS Nikki Haley Sec of Interior That's a ticket that could turn the tide.
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Post by Fredo on Mar 19, 2016 7:30:35 GMT -5
True. But that tide would wash us all out to sea.
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Post by mrtxstar on Mar 19, 2016 22:36:54 GMT -5
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Post by Fredo on Mar 20, 2016 12:02:07 GMT -5
A 2% win in a poll with a 5% margin of error before the R nominee is decided is thin stuff at best.
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Post by mrtxstar on Mar 20, 2016 13:24:47 GMT -5
A 2% win in a poll with a 5% margin of error before the R nominee is decided is thin stuff at best. I agree, which is a great reason not to nominate Trump. Hillary's average win over him head to head is outside the margin of error. (6.3%) According to RNC rules, the GOP and it's delegates do the nominating for their presidential candidate, not the voting citizenry. On the first ballot at the convention, Trump better have 1237 delegates or he is done. If not, once the delegates are released after the first ballot, the RNC has already instructed their delegates to back Ted Cruz. This is the way it has always been done when no candidate meets the minimum 1237 delegate threshold for nomination on a first ballot. This isn't skullduggery or whatever you want to call it. Trump supporters may walk out and riot (as Trump said) but they'll get over it. In the general election debates Cruz will prosecute Hillary for the bad candidate that she is and the American people will elect Cruz in a landslide. You may as well get over your butt hurt now and start supporting President Cruz. This sense of entitlement that a few Trump supporters seem to have regardless of how many delegates their candidate gets is ridiculous. As distasteful as it may be, I will support Trump if and when he gets his 1237 delegates. So Trump supporters better suck it up and support Cruz if he gets the nomination.
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Post by Smilin' Jack on Mar 25, 2016 16:29:24 GMT -5
Hey, can I still get in on a piece of this action?
Of course I can.
Up until recently when mrtxstar asked me to take a closer look at Cruz, I had a positive impression of him but just judged Trump to be the better and only person to have what it's going to take to lock horns with and actually beat the Progressives on both sides of the isle.
Trump is the only one with the character to successfully conduct a Kobayashi Maru operation on the political system.
Without that, as good a person as Cruz appeared to be, the political system would live through a Cruz presidency with very little actual change and then make sure to adjust the rules to not allow such a candidate to make it through the process ever again.
However. Could you tell that there was a 'however' coming?
What I have found in digging into Ted's journey to the White House has really quite disturbed me.
I am no longer kindly disposed to his being POTUS, VP or frankly anything else elected for that matter.
He appears to be one person when holding the Bible high in one hand and quite another when he puts it down.
I no longer know who he is exactly or what his well hidden agenda is.
I found out that he is a Dominionist. A term that was unfamiliar to me. I'm enough familiar with it now to say, Nay, nay!
His father speaks highly of him. Probably most fathers would of their sons. His believes that Ted is a God-sent King, and has told him so since he was 9 years old. OK, a bit unusual perhaps.
His wife has been involved with the CFR, a globalist outfit, during her time as a portfolio manager with Goldman Sachs, among other Wall Street investment banking firms. Goldman Sachs has made a sizable contribution to his campaign.
While these associations are circumstantial, they do tear the mask off the candidate as an 'outsider'. Is he really an outsider? I say, Nay, nay!
I've followed Glenn Beck since his days at HLN, and supported his GBTV/The Blaze launch, etc. That is until recently. Once he started continuously and relentlessly bashing Trump, to the point of derangement syndrome, was bad enough but when he started insulting, shaming and intimidating his audience if they dared support a candidate other than Cruz, I no longer recognized him.
Much very un-Christian-like behavior coming from another guy waving some book of scripture high. Not sure which one, exactly.
Beck is a huge Cruz promoter, endorser and campaigner, yet when I watch the dynamics of the two on stage, Beck always seems to dominate Cruz, who is usually meekly standing off to the side waiting for Beck to finally stop talking.
And his recent chastising Evangelicals for not listening to their God? What's up with that? Is his God a different one from the rest?
Does this association bolster my opinion of Cruz as candidate? I say, Nay, nay!
And today, the story breaks that Ted has had FIVE different mistresses. Apparently the Rubio campaign had the dirt file on him but you know that if the information is out there, someone else will find it too.
This can't just be swept aside as an indiscretion. This is a crushing blow to a candidate that has been holding himself out to be something that he is obviously not. And that's, honest.
Lying Ted, I guess. That's what he is. Having taken this route to the truth, is he worthy of a vote for POTUS? I say, Nay, nay!!
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Post by Fredo on Mar 26, 2016 14:03:55 GMT -5
I'm waiting to see if the mistresses turn out to be true. The Enquirer took down John Edwards for the same thing so they're not to be immediately dismissed. Personally, I'm never surprised when one of these bible thumpers gets caught with his pants down. The rumor a couple of weeks ago was that he was banging Trump's campaign spokesman. I only hope it's a grown woman instead of a young boy this time.
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Post by Smilin' Jack on Mar 26, 2016 15:26:47 GMT -5
That's the only reason that I didn't dismiss it out of hand, no matter the denials coming from Cruz or the women (or at least one of them at this point - Trump's staffer).
And there are rumors that another 5 people are involved and that it even includes a man.
Who knows what's the truth. We'll wait and see what develops.
Me thinks that if Cruz' PAC hadn't brought Trump's wife into it the way that they did, Trump wouldn't have responded in-kind on Twitter.
I also think that Cruz would have more influence, 'Nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more', for his PAC doing what it did, than Trump having a hand in the Inquirer running with their story.
This Inquirer story if even a bit true, should take that shinola sheen off of his halo and scuttle much of his support in the evangelical communities.
I have wondered why seemingly every attack on Trump seems to backfire.
To me, the pattern is starting to look a lot like Divine Providence is at work.
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Post by mrtxstar on Mar 27, 2016 11:08:54 GMT -5
www.redstate.com/absentee/2016/03/26/wow-new-national-poll-shows-ted-cruz-destroyed-trumps-lead/www.ibtimes.com/election-2016-update-dump-trump-movement-fueled-polls-showing-trump-trailing-clinton-2343647Just a bit of reading material so you gents can remove your heads from your asses. Come back to reality and understand, Trump will not get 1237 delegates before the convention. There will never be enough delegates to give Trump the nomination, no matter how many times a vote count is on the convention floor. This is the simple math fellas. The Republican party bosses are slowly but surely coalescing behind Ted Cruz. So guess who wins a brokered convention? Let me give you one last clue... not your guy. You need to educate yourselves on how the nominating process works, how it has always worked and will continue to do so. A plurality of delegates does not get you the nomination, only a majority of delegates can do that. You thinking, for the first time in history, it will happen any other way shows how far up your own ass you have gone. So... enjoy your tabloid rag reading lies, bathe in the propaganda of Trump and wrap yourselves in the delusion of Trump's egotistical grandeur, all aboard the Trump train and ride it straight to it's ultimate derailment in Cleveland if you must... SPOILER, it doesn't end well.
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Post by Fredo on Mar 27, 2016 11:58:39 GMT -5
... or cruz gets caught with the secretary in the confessional and the jebus freaks flee like frightened children.
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Post by mrtxstar on Mar 27, 2016 18:18:41 GMT -5
Mocking my religion on the holiest Sunday of the year doesn't make you a very nice person now does it? It's too bad you couldn't just leave that out and just stick to politics. I'll leave you and Mr. Jack to talk about it. No wonder this shit hole has dried up and abandon. Have a good life... I'll not be back.
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Post by Fredo on Mar 28, 2016 8:12:05 GMT -5
I never claimed to be a nice person.
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Post by Smilin' Jack on Mar 28, 2016 9:45:50 GMT -5
www.redstate.com/absentee/2016/03/26/wow-new-national-poll-shows-ted-cruz-destroyed-trumps-lead/www.ibtimes.com/election-2016-update-dump-trump-movement-fueled-polls-showing-trump-trailing-clinton-2343647Just a bit of reading material so you gents can remove your heads from your asses. Come back to reality and understand, Trump will not get 1237 delegates before the convention. There will never be enough delegates to give Trump the nomination, no matter how many times a vote count is on the convention floor. This is the simple math fellas. The Republican party bosses are slowly but surely coalescing behind Ted Cruz. So guess who wins a brokered convention? Let me give you one last clue... not your guy. You need to educate yourselves on how the nominating process works, how it has always worked and will continue to do so. A plurality of delegates does not get you the nomination, only a majority of delegates can do that. You thinking, for the first time in history, it will happen any other way shows how far up your own ass you have gone. So... enjoy your tabloid rag reading lies, bathe in the propaganda of Trump and wrap yourselves in the delusion of Trump's egotistical grandeur, all aboard the Trump train and ride it straight to it's ultimate derailment in Cleveland if you must... SPOILER, it doesn't end well. I'll certainly agree that the party bosses will do everything to stop Trump. That includes using Cruz prior to the convention to do so. But once into a brokered convention, they will not back Cruz either, IMO. They've already floated Ryan's name for a Ryan/Kasich ticket, or some other combination of establishment picks. The whole process is being exposed to be a puppet show to make it look like the citizens are part of the process. I don't think that it's going to end well regardless of who wins the primaries or whatever ticket comes out of the convention. I think that the Dems are also having their own similar issues in this regard. What is bothering me most is that at the end of all of this, America's judgement will come swiftly. And it will be harsh. Be ready for what's to come.
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Post by Smilin' Jack on Mar 28, 2016 10:02:51 GMT -5
Mocking my religion on the holiest Sunday of the year doesn't make you a very nice person now does it? It's too bad you couldn't just leave that out and just stick to politics. I'll leave you and Mr. Jack to talk about it. No wonder this shit hole has dried up and abandon. Have a good life... I'll not be back. So sorry to see you leave. It was nice to have you back even if was for only a short time. All the best.
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Post by Fredo on Apr 9, 2016 15:38:19 GMT -5
Pretty good video.
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Post by Smilin' Jack on Apr 17, 2016 19:17:56 GMT -5
Too bad that I can't actually see it.
I'm really curious now.
Try reposting it.
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Post by Smilin' Jack on Apr 17, 2016 19:31:42 GMT -5
The more that I'm seeing of Cruz lately, the less and less I like him.
It's crossed over into dislike actually.
He gets darker with each passing week. He's not walking his Christian talk.
I've seen some pictures of him and I couldn't put my finger on who he was reminding me of.
Count Chocula, I heard someone call him that, and that made Coke come out of my nose.
Count Chocula, was it.
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Post by Fredo on Apr 18, 2016 7:50:23 GMT -5
My neighbor said pretty much the same thing yesterday. "The more I see Ted Cruz, the less I like him". He started out as a fan but the guy just gets more slimy as the race progresses. It's unfortunate that mrtxstar moved on but I can't help the fact that I just don't trust those churchy types. They always seem to use it to justify bad bahaviour.
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